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Hello –
First I want to thank everyone for the information I’ve found on this blog/forum. I’ve been able to plan a fine culinary itinerary based on the shared knowledge here.
I will be in Kyoto for 3 days this May and have already booked a lunch at Kikunoi Roan and a dinner at Spoon, but want to dedicate the rest of my available meals to more casual fare. In general, I am willing to pay for a world-class dining experience, but in general I’d like to keep meals around the 5K-7K range.
I was hoping to sample the following:
Great Steak/Beef, either in the form of Sukiyaki or Teppanyaki (whichever provides the most bang for the buck):
– Mishima-tei seems a bit pricey to me, but the only other notable potion I could find mentioned online is Kanoko…
– In terms of Teppanyaki, the option I came across on bento.com is Misono. I also see Grill Miyata come up on alot of travel sites.
Yuba:
Seems like the establishment that keeps coming up is Komameya, which i’m happy to go to if its a definitive Yuba experience…
Unagi:
Please let me know if there is a standout Unagi experience in the Kyoto area. So far, I have come across Aoba and GION UMENOI.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hello pivote,
Just a quick reply.
Sukiyaki:
Iroha (いろは) in Ponto-cho, on the south end near Shijo Street is my favorite place for sukiyaki. They use Omi Beef (from neighboring Shiga Prefecture) and do their sukiyaki Kansai-style which is fairly sweet. Kanto-style is salty. (Kansai is Kyoto, Osaka, Nara, Kobe and Kanto is modern day Tokyo) Iroha has two restaurants within a one minute walk of one another, I go to the one farther in Ponto-cho from Shijo. I think that one is the ‘North’ restaurant. The interior is great. It is very traditional Japanese architecture with minimalist hand colored paper screens, it always looks to me like oil pastel. I understand that the owner is a professor of art. Be sure to check out the male and female icons on the restroom doors.
The sake selection is horrible (which is usual for nice restaurants and ryokan) so I always just stick with beer.
website: (no English) http://www.sukiyaki-iroha.com
You can see all the funky ‘modern Japanese’ paper screens here:
http://www.sukiyaki-iroha.com/structure/gallery/
Menu and Prices
http://www.sukiyaki-iroha.com/structure/menu/
*5,000 yen for sukiyaki in Kyoto is about average. You can find cheaper places but it is probably not ‘wagyu’ (Japanese beef)
tel: 075-221-0403
Closed Thurs
Mishima-tei
Mishima-tei is crap. (While the over-priced beef is fine quality, you can get similar beef in Kyoto at countless restaurants.) Mishima-tei’s reputation has gone to it’s head in a very large way. (This is common with about half the famous old restaurants and shops in Kyoto, that is why we started this site.)
The worst ‘good’ meal that I have ever had in my life was at Mishima-tei. It is the pinnacle of the stingy and arrogant service the Kyoto is known for in other regions of Japan. This was when I was in graduate school here, my girlfriend and I wanted to have a nice New Year’s dinner at Mishima-tei. She called and asked asked about the prices and then asked if they had a table charge. They said no. At dinner we asked for more tare (sukiyaki shoyu sauce) — and they said that they charge extra for it!! Can you believe that? Charging extra for soy sauce at a Japanese restaurant!?! Unbelievable. Then we wanted more eggs which they charge for. OK, maybe. How much? I think it was 700 yen for a single egg! That is a complete ripe off! 200 or 300 yen is kind of expensive, but if they are good eggs at an exclusive restaurant, fine. The worst was yet to come. The bill. The bill had an additional 7000 yen on it and we were like, ah, what is this? The wait staff says, oh, that is the service charge. We protested, my girlfriend said she called and asked if they have a table charge. They reply, that is a service charge. If we are in a court of law, fine, we lose. But come on, we call and are trying to find out how much it is going to cost. The point is not semantics! Sh’eesh! The service was less than friendly as well. This all made Mishima-tei a horrible experience for me. With all that unpleasantness, their famous sukiyaki doesn’t even taste good.
I have eaten at Mishima-tei since and sometimes bought their beef for Japanese New Year’s sukiyaki. The service was cold and the beef overpriced.
I have been to Iroha countless times and never experienced anything unpleasant. I doubt that Meishima-tei really tastes any better than Iroha. Also, inside, Mishima-tei is pretty rundown. So, I recommend Iroha for dinner and recommend Mishima-tei for the Hall of Shame.
Teppanyaki: Sou
I very rarely eat teppanyaki. Teppanyaki isn’t real Japanese food in my book and I hate getting covered in cooking oil while I wait for them to cook my dinner.
I did discover this teppanyaki restaurant in Gion called, Sou, that is very, very nice. Excellent food and excellent service. My friend has been teaching the manager English for a year now, so foreign visitors should have an easy time communicating. Though in Gion, the cost performance is quite good too.
(Wait for Miwa to tell you about Yuba)
Thank you so much for the recommendation peko – i’ve already asked my hotel to make a reservation for me for dinner at the Iroha North branch. It looks like exactly the type of restaurant I want to visit!
And thank you for steering me clear of Mishima-tei! I had some sneaking suspicions but it actually sounds a lot worse than even I was fearing.
Also, I would be very grateful if you could share some insight on your preferred unagi restaurants. I’ve read about Kaneyo in your blog and I’ve found that Zagat rates Gion U (570-120 Gionmachi-Minamigawa) very highly.
btw – I am a big fan of your blog and have been using it extensively to plan my culinary itinerary in Kyoto. thanks for all the good work!
Tori-suki (Chicken Sukiyaki)
Chicken Sukiyaki is a Kyoto original and very delicious. When you are in Japan, be sure to check out shops that sell poultry which is mainly chicken in Japan. The variety of cuts of chicken is a whole lot more than you might imagine. I guess that chicken is prepared in about 30 different cuts in Japan.
One of the fun things about chicken sukiyaki is that you can often get a half a dozen or so different parts of the chicken in your sukiyaki. When I do this dish at home, I try to get 10 or more cuts of chicken.
If you are in Kyoto and like sukiyaki, consider giving chicken sukiyaki (tori-suki) a try.
Here are two famous Kyoto chicken restaurants, both with a long history.
Hachikian 八起庵
Hachikian is a restaurant that I have been to many times and it very, very good. The chicken and eggs are raised to their specifications — very fresh and high quality. Hachikian is probably most known for their chicken kaiseki, which is very good, but if you are only in town for a short time, I would suggest that you have real kaiseki (not chicken) and have chicken suki or chicken nabe to see how Kyoto people usually eat chicken.
price: 6,800 yen (per person, reservation required)
location: Marutamachi Kawabata intersection (right around the corner from Sumibi Torito)
dinner menu (tori suki at the very bottom):
http://www.hachikian.com/dinner/index.html
ingredients:
http://www.hachikian.com/quality/index.html
Toriiwaro 鳥岩楼
I usually go here for lunch and have only had dinner here once. The price was 6,000 yen per person. The food was good, the atmosphere really good as it is in an old Kyoto-style building. The service was OK and the cost performance was also just OK. If you aren’t on a tight budget and want to have tori suki in an old style Kyoto setting, Toriiwaro is a good bet.
location: Nishijin
(reviewed here on KyotoFoodie)
Hello,
Yuba
Komameya Yuba
I like Komameya Yuba restaurant, their yuba donburi is very good. They have another branch in the north side of Daimaru department store. I have tried 3,000 yen course and 5,000 yen course. 3,000 yen was so-so and 5,000 yen course was really good.
http://kyotofoodie.com/komameya-yuba-ryori-lunch/
Yubasen
I also like Yubasen, on Gojo-zaka street, which is very near Kiyomizu temple. You can eat very very fresh yuba for reasonable price. You can see how they are made, and by appointments, you can even experience to make yourself.
http://gojo.yubasen.co.jp/access/index.html
http://gojo.yubasen.co.jp/menu/index.html
Seike
If you would like to enjoy Yuba being served as Kaiseki food, Seike is a good place to go. Nishijin branch, which I haven’t been there, seems to have very good Nishijin machiya-stlye building and atmosphere, It is south of Imadegawa street and Omiya street intersection. Lunch starts from 2,800 yen and dinner starts from 7,350 yen. Yuba is not so expensive to make, so I think that you could be paying much for the atmosphere too.
Unagi
Kaneyo
As for unagi, I think Kaneyo is reasonably priced for eel cuisine.
Matsuno
Other places I know is more expensive. Matsuno, is famous. They have english website, so please have a look.
http://www.matsuno-co.com/gion_matsuno.html
Uokeya
Uokeya in Gion is very famous. I haven’t been there, but the location is really good and is run by a famous restaurant group, Yagenbori, that has good reputation. This restaurant was a favorite of the American artist Clifton Karhu who lived most of his adult life in Kyoto. His woodblock prints decorate the restaurant.
Their dinner sets starts from 6,300 yen and reservation is needed.
Thank you Miwa!
I have asked my hotel to make a reservations at Matsuno and Komemeya for lunch.
Looking forward to eating some excellent Kyoto cuisine…
Kyoto Teppanyaki Recommendation: Sou
OK, I have found a teppanyaki restaurant that I can highly recommend. It is located in Gion but not crazy expensive or stuck-up like lots or restaurants there.
Sou, properly called Teppan Kappo Sou serves the highest quality beef available in Japan, grade A5. They have an English menu. Please see the link below for my full review at and lots of photos at KyotoFoodie.

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